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Re:ASML reports fire at its Berlin factory by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @11:14AM (#29796418)
"But it's bite does not match its bark when it comes to developing and inventing new ideas and technology."

You just had a huge thread of repeating this over an over, and you have never stated why you believe this, what have you counted or measured to arrive at that conclusion? Patents? GDP growth, scientific papers? Is it 'just a feeling'?

Re:ASML reports fire at its Berlin factory by throwawaylinux on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @08:01PM (#29803434)
Technology leadership and innovation and invention wherever I look. Which yes is anecdotal, but I did repeatedly say this, and gave examples https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29792311.

I just had a huge thread of others repeating over and over that I was wrong, without actually addressing what I wrote. That's why the thread got so huge.

Re:ASML reports fire at its Berlin factory by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday January 05, 2022 @02:01PM (#29813347)
It's like an argument about vaccines between housewives - firstly neither side actually understands the areas being discussed - that evident from how discussion of nuclear technology shaped up.

Secondly the statement is poorly defined - you have different ideas about what counts as 'innovation'.

Third, it is quantitive, but none of the arguments/statements given by either side have any quantities attached.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but if your centered your argument around patents, or GDP growth, or research funding and papers, you would have a more productive discussion.

Re:ASML reports fire at its Berlin factory by throwawaylinux on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:23AM (#29821240)
> I don't have a dog in the fight, but if your centered your argument around patents, or GDP growth, or research funding and papers, you would have a more productive discussion.

No it wouldn't. You clearly haven't understood the discussion or issues if you believe that. I think that's why you're finding it so confusing.