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Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by dragonwriter on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @06:35AM (#29793732)
> Their process sucked unacceptably and they knew it but they didn't set out to lie with test results

They lied about what test they were doing, and people paid them based on that lie. While the jury here may be correct that that wasn't federal wire fraud by Holmes personally, it absolutely was a fraud by Theranos.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by starfallg on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @06:32PM (#29802527)
On the other hand Theranos and by extension Holmes had a duty to the patients which they clearly breached. It's definitely more clear cut in terms of negligence.