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Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by neom on Monday January 03, 2022 @09:14PM (#29790358)
Of course I can name multiple, I've been involved in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in startups deals, I've spent over 15 years in the industry...
Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by bern4444 on Monday January 03, 2022 @09:24PM (#29790437)
Are you willing or can you share the names of some of these companies?
Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by neom on Monday January 03, 2022 @09:30PM (#29790500)
No. I don't think what they did was wrong a), and, b) because it genuinely is prevalent. Maybe if the statue of limitations passed on some of the startups I've been involved in, I might consider it, but even then, doubtful.. It doesn't matter what was done, the startups were successful and the investors got paid back, so who is going to ask questions and why?
Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by hn_throwaway_99 on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @01:15AM (#29791963)
I mean, on one hand, yes, if nobody is harmed, there really isn't a case for fraud.

But I agree with the other responder, I've also been in many startups and have certainly seen tons of exaggerations about the future but never outright lies about the present that Holmes was guilty of. Even worse, if you're going to lie about the present, you should at least have strong confidence your lie is physically possible - Theranos tech was always a sham from day 1.

I just don't buy at all the "everyone in Silicon Valley does it" spiel, because if they did, investors of failed startups (i.e. the majority) would have tons of reasons to sue and put people in jail.

Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by CRConrad on Friday January 07, 2022 @09:57PM (#29848155)
Frankly, making an outrageous claim and then just blithely going "Nope, I'm not going to give even a single example" makes it sound like you are spouting just as much bullshit as Holmes did. Or alternatively, like you're just not understanding the difference between over-optimistic forecasts and claims of actual outcome. Which is it?
Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by seehafer on Monday January 03, 2022 @09:48PM (#29790651)
Were any of these startups providing medical care or diagnostics to people on false pretenses?
Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by neom on Monday January 03, 2022 @09:51PM (#29790688)
She was found guilty of investor fraud, not medical/patient fraud.
Re:Elizabeth Holmes found guilty by seehafer on Monday January 03, 2022 @11:16PM (#29791258)
Your implied question is "why is this case special?", when so many startups supposedly do this. Most startups aren't giving people input into major medical decisions.