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Re:We need to reclaim our attention by tux3 on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:31PM (#29772696)
Developped countries share the same technologies, but this obesity and diabetes problem you're talking about seems largely rooted in North America.

You're a little quick to correlate screens and health metrics. I don't think that explanation holds up at all if you consider data in other countries.

Re:We need to reclaim our attention by wott on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:42PM (#29772837)
> Developped countries share the same technologies, but this obesity and diabetes problem you're talking about seems largely rooted in North America.

In France ("the land of delicate and healthy food", as it is sold to you), obesity rate was multiplied by 3 since the 80s. Overweight rate raised by 50%.

Diabetes has also been on the raise: double or tripled since the 90s.

You know, in general all the crap that develops in the USA reaches other countries after a while. Depending on which specific 'crap', it is just a matter of variables delays and variable intensity, but it surely comes one day.

Re:We need to reclaim our attention by tome on Sunday January 02, 2022 @03:49PM (#29773707)
> France ("the land of delicate and healthy food", as it is sold to you)

Is it? I would associate that description more with Italy. With France I associate butter, cream, cheese, fatty cuts of meat ...

Re:We need to reclaim our attention by wott on Sunday January 02, 2022 @05:37PM (#29774829)
To many people, Italy would first evoke pizza and (the huge amount of Nonna's) pasta :-)

"Gourmet", "Chef", "Cuisine" and dozens of other terms: even in the English culinary vocabulary, the French words have a predominant role. It ruled the world of 'proper' cooking at some point. But I was more thinking about how, from the USA, the French are presented as having a balanced diet, eating a bit of everything but not eating too much of anything, cooking by themselves and not resorting to mostly ready, industrial, over-processed meals, how they would be a sort model in those matters related to food.

What was very fashionable at some point in the discourse on healthy food (10-15 years ago, maybe), was the Greek/Cretan diet; which was often extended to the whole Mediterranean, including Italy indeed, and south of France. Traditionally the butter & cream you mentioned are associated with northern France: the South was supposed to be a land of oil (olive oil in the most Mediterranean part, other oils in other parts) and the North a land of butter.

Re:We need to reclaim our attention by afr0ck on Monday January 03, 2022 @12:41AM (#29777726)
As well as the almighty Baguette.
Re:We need to reclaim our attention by mmarq on Monday January 03, 2022 @02:52AM (#29778369)
With Southern France and maybe Paris being the exceptions, the eating habits of the average Frenchman are closer to those of the English and the American than to those of the Southern European.

Said that, obesity is largely a problem of the Anglo-sphere, it has many causes, including a severe lack of food culture (eg adults who think it’s proper to eat candy bars or to eat at McDonald’s). It is not inevitable that the horrid American food habits will become the norm everywhere, the US is not the teleos history is moving towards.

Re:We need to reclaim our attention by scythe on Sunday January 02, 2022 @02:45PM (#29772887)
Physical strength has declined according to simple metrics (grip strength) in Northern Europe:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235282731...

In Japan the same trend appears but it's delayed by two decades:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1728869X1...

Obesity and diabetes have also trended upwards outside North America but this has been mitigated by better regulation of the food industry.