My feelings exactly. I'm also frustrated and disappointed with how discussions always end up stuck on the same tried and well-hashed points.

I don't want a "pro-crypto" echo chamber, but I also don't want what hn devolves into whenever these topics are brought up.

If you manage to find this reasonable place, please, please post it here as reply to your comment. I've favorited your comment and will check any replies to it for a month or two.

What a pity :(