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Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by josephcsible on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:50PM (#29761329)
If discrimination is only wrong because of lack of choice of the discriminated trait, then why is it wrong to discriminate based on people's religion? Or would you say that it isn't?
Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by ukj on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:55PM (#29761388)
I would say that there is not a single non-religious human being on this planet.

Human rights are a religion - they don’t exist. We made them up so we can coexist; and so that we can improve the quality of our lives.

What makes discrimination wrong is that it diminishes the well-being of the discriminated against.

So you are welcome to insist that your well-being is being diminished by vaccine mandates but it would be a peculiar argument since most people are choosing to vaccinate because it improves their well-being.

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Re:Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemplo... by ukj on Saturday January 01, 2022 @03:17PM (#29762240)
You seem to be struggling with the fact that objective morality is a social construct.

It's not about WHO makes the decision. It's about the inherent quality of the decision being made irrespective of who makes it.

Of course it's your choice to drive your car into a wall at 200km/h, but in the way society uses the word "objectively" and "true" it is objectively true that driving into a wall at 200km/h is detrimental to your well-being. And it is objectively true that in doing so you are making a bad decision.

In the same way that is objectively true that seatbelts save lives, it is objectively true that vaccines save lives. Therefore not doing what's conducive to your well-being is a bad choice.

The metrics, measurements and methods used to arrive at these conclusions are as objective as empiricism allows for.

>Those who don't want to vaccinate also choose to do so because it improves their well-being

Yes. They using the exact same words. Are you convinced by their arguments? I am not.

What I am convinced of is how intellectually dishonest they are in parroting words without bringing evidence to the table.