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Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by tandymodel100 on Friday December 31, 2021 @10:15PM (#29755150)
> How are we not prepared with a plan to end lockdowns?

We don't have lockdowns, and haven't had lockdowns in America

> And blaming unvaccinated or anti-maskers is not a good answer

Blaming the unvaccinated, who comprise the overwhelming majority of those that get hospitalized, spread it and die, is a good answer. I think a lot of this is solved by deprioritizing them at triage time or letting them recuperate at home.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by nradov on Friday December 31, 2021 @10:26PM (#29755216)
I encourage everyone eligible to get vaccinated but blaming people for making unhealthy choices isn't an effective public health measure. It didn't work in the HIV/AIDS pandemic and it won't work now. Better to focus on education and harm minimization.

Due to EMTALA, hospitals in the US are required to treat unstable patients regardless of vaccination status. Changing that would require an Act of Congress. Also note that there is no 100% reliable way for hospitals to determine a particular patient's vaccination status; the registries have some data quality and record linkage problems.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by enchiridion on Friday December 31, 2021 @10:28PM (#29755231)
I share your frustration, but the anti-vax people were expected. It’s like sitting into the wind at this point. The game plan should’ve been built around there non-compliance.

Poor leadership only plans for things going how they want.

As far as lockdowns are concerned, we have had the mass shutdown of in person school and work, as well as the forced closure of many restaurants and entertainment venues.

I was using the shorthand.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by tandymodel100 on Friday December 31, 2021 @10:33PM (#29755257)
> The game plan should’ve been built around there non-compliance.

That is correct, and that's why they proposed the OSHA rule for mandating vaccinations after months of incentives. I think some % of non-compliance is understandable, but the remaining unvaccinated seem to be doing it for political reasons over anything else.

> As far as lockdowns are concerned, we have had the mass shutdown of in person school and work, as well as the forced closure of many restaurants and entertainment venues.

Right, we had those last year. Not since, in America at least.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by chana_masala on Saturday January 01, 2022 @03:34AM (#29756661)
I am in the US and schools are still doing "distance" learning and restaurants are not allowed at full capacity.
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by tandymodel100 on Saturday January 01, 2022 @03:55PM (#29762664)
I don't know any school districts that have permanently been doing distance learning (though some, stupidly, are doing another round of it because of the omicron surge) and I have not heard of any restaurant capacity restrictions in my very blue, COVID conscious city.
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by chana_masala on Saturday January 01, 2022 @05:37PM (#29763588)
Well, where I am things are still quite restrictive
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by _djo_ on Saturday January 01, 2022 @05:40AM (#29757248)
That’s not a lockdown by any reasonable definition of the term.