Unicode Normalization Forms: When ö ≠ ö

Re:Unicode Normalization Forms: When ö ≠ ö by cgriswald on Friday December 31, 2021 @06:25PM (#29753607)

I'm not a linguist and that will probably be readily apparent. The word jalapeño leaves me wondering how distinct a boundary a language can possess or how one can sort out which language an individual word belongs to outside the context of the rest of the text or speech.

In English, jalapeño is correctly spelled with or without the eñe (and AFAIK the letter doesn't have a name in English, you have to use the Spanish name). So, there's an English word that doesn't use the letters assigned to the English alphabet. How do we place the word? Well, obviously English borrowed the word from Spanish, so it's a Spanish word. Well, no, it's only the Spanish adjectivization of Nahautl words used to name the place called Xalapa...

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Re:Unicode Normalization Forms: When ö ≠ ö by wongarsu on Friday December 31, 2021 @06:48PM (#29753789)

Words like angst or ersatz are English words borrowed from German. The German words are written identically (except capitalisation), but the meaning of the English word is much more specific than the German "original". Meanwhile the word "Blitz" has completely district meanings in English and German. In English it's a sudden concerted effort, in German it's lightning. Despite the English word originating from German, they don't share a meaning at all

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Re:Unicode Normalization Forms: When ö ≠ ö by smitty1e on Friday December 31, 2021 @07:43PM (#29754175)

Isn't the etymology of 'blitz' in English due more to 'blitzkrieg'?

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Re:Unicode Normalization Forms: When ö ≠ ö by KarlKode on Friday December 31, 2021 @07:59PM (#29754290)

German has the word blitzschnell which means really fast (as fast a bolt). So in a way the english meaning of blitz still fits your description.

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