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Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by nicoburns on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @08:27PM (#29732432)
You should look into the MBTI types, and specifically the "cognitive functions". A lot of people say they are nonsense, but I think they are valuable (and likely represent an underlying cognitive difference) precisely they explain these kind of situations in way that nothing else. The key thesis of the MBTI is that there is not 1 "standard" way in which we think, but 8 different ones.

You could also use the more general theory that people think differently to each other to explain this scenario. But such a theory is much less practical in terms of resolving the disputes, whereas the MBTI is excellent at this.

This link isn't ideal, but it's a decent considering it's concise and freely available on the internet https://personalityjunkie.com/functions-ni-ti-fi-si-ne-te-fe...

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by jcims on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @09:44PM (#29732930)
OK so just thinking about it this way made me realize it doesn't matter if the person is autistic or not, the problem is the communication breakdown, not the underlying cause of it.

Saying 'I'm sorry but I don't think we're having the same conversation, ...' and then resetting context might be all it takes. It certainly would be less horrifically offensive haha.

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by dragonwriter on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @09:47PM (#29732954)
> A lot of people say they are nonsense

They are about 50% nonsense.

But you could read about Big 5 personality traits, which are not nonsense being pushed for commercial reasons like MBTI.

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by nicoburns on Thursday December 30, 2021 @05:03AM (#29735322)
> But you could read about Big 5 personality traits, which are not nonsense being pushed for commercial reasons like MBTI.

From what I know of the Big 5, it's not very useful for explaining these kind of miscommunications. You can't explain people misunderstanding each other by saying that one is more agreeable and the other less agreeable, because the Big 5 doesn't say much of anything about why those people have those observed traits.

On the other hand, you can explain people misunderstanding each other using the MBTI by for example saying that one is Fe dominant, while the other is Te dominant, as this model posits distinct underlying cognitive processes which cause the person to literally perceive and interpret the world differently (especially in cases where the stimulus (or language) is ambiguous).

Re:How to talk about autism respectfully by dragonwriter on Thursday December 30, 2021 @05:10AM (#29735363)
Anything (and much more!) you can explain (justifiably) with MBTI you can explain with Big 5 because (1) the only actual empirical merit MBTI has is that a couple of its divides are strongly correlated with Big 5 traits, and (2) there is lot of research on practical implications of Big 5 traits on interpersonal interactions.

It's possible that there are some “just so” stories with no empirical basis you can build around the woo that is the MBTI dimensions that don't correlate well with validated personality measures and the unvalidated narratives constructed around both the coincidentally useful and totally invalid MBTI dimensions, but that's of equivalent value to “explanations” drawn from astrology or theory of humors.