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A comment on Facebook said my article was false – now the fact-checkers admit they were wrong. Parent comment

Re:Facebook said my article was false – now the fact-checker... by allturtles on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @04:25PM (#29730215)
I couldn't really disagree more. Convicted is the key point here. Anyone can throw around the word 'terrorist' to describe someone, but conviction is a concrete fact about the legal system. The people calling this woman a "convicted terrorist" are leaning on the convicted. Without it their claim would feel much less weighty.

e.g. lots of people have called Kyle Rittenhouse a 'terrorist'. Say he had been convicted on one of the charges against him - would it be fair to call him a 'convicted terrorist' just because some people feel he is a terrorist, and he was convicted of something? Clearly not.

"Rosenberg is a convicted criminal who planned terrorist acts" is a far more defensible claim, so why not just say that?

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Re:Facebook said my article was false – now the fact-checker... by inglor_cz on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @05:07PM (#29730698)
By your definition, no successful suicide bomber would ever be a terrorist, because the dead do not go to trials.
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Re:Facebook said my article was false – now the fact-checker... by allturtles on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @07:32PM (#29732012)
Of course they would, they just wouldn't be a convicted terrorist.
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Re:Facebook said my article was false – now the fact-checker... by BitwiseFool on Monday January 03, 2022 @03:39PM (#29786512)
Osama B.L. and I both belong to the same category of "not a convicted terrorist", yet that fact seems quite misleading.
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Re:Facebook said my article was false – now the fact-checker... by allturtles on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @11:47AM (#29796829)
I don't see how it would be misleading. Despite various indictments, AFAIK bin Laden was never convicted of anything. There are many categories you share with him, e.g. "people who didn't live in the seventeenth century" and "people who have never been in my kitchen."

In your view, do adjectives not matter for facticity, only nouns? Could we fairly call Osama bin Laden a Russian terrorist or a female terrorist?

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