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Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s... by sangnoir on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @08:53PM (#29720809)
I doubt payment is part of the spec, but I bet you a dollar Apple Payments is going to factor into the "seamless provisioning experience".
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s... by FDSGSG on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @09:00PM (#29720854)
You would lose that dollar. eSIMs have been available on iOS for ages and have nothing to do with "Apple Payments".
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s... by sangnoir on Thursday December 30, 2021 @05:54AM (#29735633)
You're too focussed on the narrow technology implementation and not on the potential consumer experience.

Here's what a rational, profitable scenario would look like to me: in the not-too-distant-future, you land in country X and you get prompted if you would you like a local number by partner Mobile network. If you agree, Apple submits your electronic ID[1] to the Mobile Network for KYC purposes (with your opt-in), you pay with your Apple wallet, and you get a local number. The network gets paid, and Apple gets its cut (as well as a subsequent payments, if it's a PAYG plan) - and you haven't even picked up your baggage from the carousel. Apple can even play off networks against each other and pick the more profitable ones, and consumers get a sleek onboarding experience for a fee, or bundled with your Apple TV/iTunes/iServices subscription, so you can resume watching season 10 of Foundation while you wait for your Uber.

1. https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/15/apple-strict-terms-on-u...

Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s... by rosndo on Thursday December 30, 2021 @06:29AM (#29735851)
You are criticizing a weird strawman here. eSIMs already work on iPhones, it would be difficult for Apple to walk back on that.

Removing the SIM slot isn’t a step into that direction, removing standards compliant eSIM support would be.

Or maybe your comment isn’t meant as a criticism at all, I think that actually sounds pretty awesome. As long as we retain the ability to load our own eSIMs.