Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by Retric on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @11:09AM
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This feature is already implemented in many areas. As an English speaker your going to have few issues.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by dkonofalski on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @12:50PM
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>And what if those menus are in some foreign language I don't understand? And how would that work with cash?
The menus will be in whatever language your phone is set to. You can use contactless payment like Apple Pay or Google Pay and there's no recurring charge unless you want there to be one.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by NullPrefix on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @01:52PM
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>contactless payment
You do understand how strange this sounds? Like airdropping files from C:/Downloads to C:/Archive
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by dkonofalski on Tuesday December 28, 2021 @05:42PM
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Can you elaborate? I can get an eSIM with service in less than 5 minutes and never leave my house/hotel using Apple Pay.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by NullPrefix on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @06:42AM
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Yes, but is it contactless?
If I write you a letter on a piece of paper, is it wireless transmission? Mind you, paper has no wires.
Contactless payment is the marketing term for NFC technology. It has nothing to do with you not interacting with other people.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by dkonofalski on Wednesday December 29, 2021 @06:58PM
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My point was that the payment was contactless. You don't have to give any paper or anything to another person. It's handled by Apple Pay using whatever payment method you want and the vendor/provider never gets your info.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by NullPrefix on Thursday December 30, 2021 @08:09AM
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My point was that paper letter was wireless too. Wireless, same as contactless, is a name we use for particular technology.
I totally agree that it could have been Apple Pay, Paypal Pay or whatever else Bingus Pay, but it definitely was not contactless, because there was no NFC radio communication involved.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by dkonofalski on Thursday December 30, 2021 @04:01PM
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And my point was that "contactless" has more than one definition depending on context. I'm not going to respond anymore as I've been warned about arguing semantics on here.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by NullPrefix on Friday December 31, 2021 @10:59AM
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You've completely ignored my argument that it was wireless too.
Re:Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card s...
by dkonofalski on Tuesday January 04, 2022 @11:38AM
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That's not relevant to the point I was making.
And what if those menus are in some foreign language I don't understand? And how would that work with cash? I'd have to fork over my credit card (assuming that's even an acceptable form of payment) and may end up with a recurring charge for a cell plan in a country I'll visit for a week.
Visions like yours are nice, but my money is what we'll actually get is a far crappier, buggier version.
One impossible-to-replace benefit of physical objects is that you can use physical control to place limits on them. Pay with cash, no recurring changes, move the card, move the service. Theoretically you could do that in software, but practically you won't because those are expensive features that almost always get cut.