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Re:Once poor, always poor? by lotsofpulp on Monday December 27, 2021 @09:43AM (#29702843)
> why do you need a college degree just to get a basic entry level job with a career path.

The two options here are that either all the businesses using college degrees as a signal are wrong and they could be saving a lot of money by hiring non college educated applicants for slightly less pay and building them up.

OR college education is a useful signal and so businesses are willing to pay a higher price for it.

If the prior were true, then I would assume a business would have developed already to take advantage of the arbitrage opportunity. It is not a novel or less known idea.

Re:Once poor, always poor? by mattchew on Monday December 27, 2021 @10:37AM (#29703312)
A degree can be a valuable signal to employers and also be a terrible waste of time and resources. It can be both at once.

It would be better if we found ways to let young people get into white collar and middle class professions without spending $100K and four years of their lives. This used to be possible. I'm quite sure it could be done again, but collectively we're not going to go there. Yet, anyway.

Re:Once poor, always poor? by lotsofpulp on Monday December 27, 2021 @10:58AM (#29703530)
> A degree can be a valuable signal to employers and also be a terrible waste of time and resources. It can be both at once.

Sure, but it answers the question of why a degree is “needed”, and that is given the supply and demand curves for labor, the suppliers of labor need it to compete with each other.

> It would be better if we found ways to let young people get into white collar and middle class professions without spending $100K and four years of their lives.

Really simple, remove all taxpayer funded (including guaranteed) education loans, and any special bankruptcy protection they might have.