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Re:Telegram is anything but secure; even Facebook is safer, ... by rPlayer6554 on Sunday December 26, 2021 @01:12AM (#29690169)
They have reproducible builds on Android if you are that paranoid.
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Re:Telegram is anything but secure; even Facebook is safer, ... by DarylZero on Sunday December 26, 2021 @02:08AM (#29690394)
That doesn't help because the other end can be compromised.
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Re:Telegram is anything but secure; even Facebook is safer, ... by ViViDboarder on Monday December 27, 2021 @12:28PM (#29704519)
If they verify their end, it does.

What software would not be vulnerable to what you’re describing?

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Re:Telegram is anything but secure; even Facebook is safer, ... by DarylZero on Friday December 31, 2021 @12:11AM (#29745151)
It's not about the software, it's about the distribution of the software. Signal distributes through Google as man-in-the-middle. So if you trust Google, you're OK. But if you're using Signal because you don't trust Google, it doesn't make sense.

In case you don't trust Google I really suggest OpenSSH or WireGuard, to establish a secure tunnel; and then run IRC, Jabber, SIP, or mumble (as needed) over the tunnel.

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Re:Telegram is anything but secure; even Facebook is safer, ... by Anunayj on Sunday December 26, 2021 @03:02PM (#29695796)
well nothing you can do can stop the other person from leaking your conversations.
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Re:Telegram is anything but secure; even Facebook is safer, ... by DarylZero on Monday December 27, 2021 @10:09AM (#29703055)
That's a different issue. We're talking about software not "opsec."

When the military issues secure communications devices, it makes damn sure that BOTH SIDES have a secure device.

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