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Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by epistasis on Friday December 24, 2021 @11:47PM (#29680508)
Ideally these apartments could be rented to the many many many people that prefer to not have a car of their own. Especially in SF, there's a need for more apartments like that.

To solve the parking problem, SF should require a dedicated parking spot be obtained before allowing a person to register a car with a San Francisco address. Alternatively, start charging reasonable rates for street parking, and have hugely increased rates for permits beyond a person's first.

"Free" parking has an extremely high cost on every aspect of city life.

Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by brian-armstrong on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:09AM (#29680625)
> Ideally these apartments could be rented to the many many many people that prefer to not have a car of their own. Especially in SF, there's a need for more apartments like that.

The significant price differential for SF real estate without parking suggests this is about 3 "many" too manys.

Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by epistasis on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:10PM (#29684854)
The price differential reflects the high cost of devoting space to parking, not of the demand for it.

A parking space require not only the square footage for the car, but also the lane to get to the parking space. A constructed parking space is equivalent to 1-2 bedrooms worth of living space, which is a huge difference in real estate prices.

Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by brian-armstrong on Saturday December 25, 2021 @03:47PM (#29686818)
It sounds like you haven't ever actually been in a garage. The lane to the spaces is shared by all the spaces, and the garage also houses electrical distribution, water supply, heating and cooling which couldn't be co-located with a unit anyway. It would be at best storage space, and at worst it would just go to waste.
Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by epistasis on Saturday December 25, 2021 @05:17PM (#29687502)
The amount of lane space scales linearly with the number of parking spaces. You can't add more parking spaces without adding additional lane length to reach those parking spaces.

Take a look at any aerial view of a parking lot and you'll see that only roughly half of the are is dedicated to parking spaces.