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Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by PebblesRox on Friday December 24, 2021 @11:39PM (#29680460)
This page makes a claim and has links to sources at the bottom:

“International Fire Death Rate statistics show no correlation between the allowable building height for residential buildings with a single egress stair and fatality rates. The U.S. NFPA attributes the worldwide trend in decreased fatality rates between 1979 and 2007 to improved in firefighting capacities, stringent regulation of combustible materials in construction and increased requirements for modern fire safety measures like sprinklering and automatic fire alarm systems.”

https://secondegress.ca/Jurisdictions-1

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Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by pipeline_peak on Friday December 24, 2021 @11:57PM (#29680554)
Fatality rates sure, but what about injuries? People getting trampled over, falling downstairs.
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Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by Sharlin on Saturday December 25, 2021 @08:49AM (#29683350)
Anecdotal, but I've never heard of an apartment building fire where people get trampled trying to escape. This in Europe where many if not most countries do not mandate a second escape route for midrise buildings. It's simply not a problem. You're supposed to shelter in your apartment anyway, which almost always is much safer than the hallway in case of a fire.
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Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by pipeline_peak on Saturday December 25, 2021 @09:31AM (#29683597)
“ Overcrowding during emergency evacuation can cause crowd stampede and trampling that will lead to serious injuries or fatalities. ”

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09600...

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Re:Could housing be cheaper and better if we stop building s... by Sharlin on Saturday December 25, 2021 @10:13AM (#29683903)
Yes, but that is about large crowded events specifically, where the crowds can be tens to hundreds of times larger than the number of residents in a midrise, and remaining in a specifically constructed fire-and-smoke-resistant shelter (one’s home) is not an alternative.
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