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Re:Can Matt Mullenweg save the internet? by coldtea on Friday December 24, 2021 @12:02PM (#29675230)
>In fairness to Matt and Automattic, Wordpress pre-Gutenberg was basically unusable by non-technical users.

While I'm pro-Gutenberg (see my answer above), the WP editor pre-Gutenberg was absolutely fine for "non-technical users" too. It's adoption, for regular users like plain blog authors and journalists and so on, had already been massive (in the "tens or even hundreds of millions userbase" level massive...

Re:Can Matt Mullenweg save the internet? by mattzito on Friday December 24, 2021 @12:52PM (#29675802)
Yeah, in an attempt to be concise, some nuance was lost - I think Wordpress as a pure editor, as a real CMS, when set up properly and/or using an OOTB template is perfectly fine. The post editor is good, you have all the basic formatting elements, page types, etc.

But I think that limits you to two universes of setups - either built by a "pro" (for some definition of pro) who configures everything, installs plugins, installs and customizes the templates and basically gets everything perfect OR very basic cookie-cutter installs with lots of limitations.

Either of those scenarios is fine, and I think it's great to have an ecosystem of small designers whose customers are DIFM users. I agree for "blog authors" and writers it's also fine, subject to the above limitations.

The reality, though, is that market is tiny - "tens or hundreds of millions of users" - I do not think there are in the hundreds of millions of blog authors getting active traffic, though I maybe buy "10s of millions". Tumblr alone has 500+m active sites, even if we assume only 10% get actual consistent traffic (which would be roughly consistent with the data I remember), that alone is 50m active sites. If there are 10s of millions of bloggers, we would expect that the active # of sites are in the single-digit millions.

Re:Can Matt Mullenweg save the internet? by coldtea on Sunday December 26, 2021 @06:11AM (#29691450)
It's hasn't been just bloggers since forever. All kinds of sites, news, business, restaurants, community, ngo, all the way to the White House, use WordPress.