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Re:Systemd 250 Released by bayindirh on Friday December 24, 2021 @01:49AM (#29671031)
> Become the internet's villain.

This is not about the problems systemd solves, but how they solve them and how they act while solving them.

Re:Systemd 250 Released by davydm on Friday December 24, 2021 @01:51AM (#29671041)
not to mention the new problems it introduces
Re:Systemd 250 Released by 5e92cb50239222b on Friday December 24, 2021 @02:01AM (#29671092)
The most important of them being flamewars for the past ten years stirred up by those who have nothing better to do.
Re:Systemd 250 Released by sgaduuw on Friday December 24, 2021 @02:03AM (#29671104)
could you please elaborate on the new problems?
Re:Systemd 250 Released by gorgoiler on Friday December 24, 2021 @02:34AM (#29671272)
Take the best coder you know, take their bugs-per-line-of-code rate, and multiply it by 713,364 (systemd *.h *.c)
Re:Systemd 250 Released by sgaduuw on Friday December 24, 2021 @02:44AM (#29671330)
Since all software has bugs, that doesn't make it a new problem now does it?
Re:Systemd 250 Released by gorgoiler on Friday December 24, 2021 @02:56AM (#29671396)
”All software has bugs, but some are more buggy than others.”

Systemd is exceptionally voluminous, fast moving, feature-laden (which is part of why it is so exciting to so many people), and buggy.

Re:Systemd 250 Released by bayindirh on Friday December 24, 2021 @02:49AM (#29671363)
systemd had way more bugs and crinkles for an init system when it first started, and an init system is critical software.
Re:Systemd 250 Released by 1_player on Friday December 24, 2021 @04:06AM (#29671822)
Everything is buggy the newer it is, your point being?

Linux itself was mostly unusable when it first started. And a kernel is even more important.

Re:Systemd 250 Released by bayindirh on Friday December 24, 2021 @05:07AM (#29672248)
> Everything is buggy the newer it is, your point being?

There's a distinction between labeling it as a hobby project and something ready for production.

Linux started as a hobby OS, and being buggy is OK in that regard.

systemd is way more buggy than it should when it's deemed production ready. This is my point.

I'm using Linux for a long time, and I know the meanings of unstable, buggy and experimental; as well as production ready.

I don't hate or I'm not against systemd, I'm against the attitude behind it.