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Re:Google's removed all mentions of an Intercept investigati... by s1artibartfast on Thursday December 23, 2021 @07:48PM (#29668533)
I won't support this entire position, but there are a number of regulations for behavior which are correlative and not causative. Good examples for a more nuanced position are zero tolerance laws punishing drivers with any detectable level of bac, without any claim of danger or impairment. Open container laws are similarly problematic. Last but not least are intent to drive' provisions which allow charging of a drunk sleeping it off in the back seat with a DUI.

These are examples of enforcement based on questionable assumed outcomes, essentially boiling down to probabilistic pre-crime.

Re:Google's removed all mentions of an Intercept investigati... by kingcharles on Friday December 24, 2021 @12:17PM (#29675366)
I know someone who spent two years fighting an open container charge for an empty beer can in the centre console he was using as an ashtray.
Re:Google's removed all mentions of an Intercept investigati... by s1artibartfast on Friday December 24, 2021 @12:50PM (#29675780)
Yeah, great example. How did it turn out for them?
Re:Google's removed all mentions of an Intercept investigati... by kingcharles on Friday December 24, 2021 @07:01PM (#29678985)
Well, he was demanding a jury trial and the judge didn't want a jury trial for such a petty offense, so the judge scratched out the ticket (the ticket is the formal indictment in a traffic violation in Illinois) and wrote "noisy muffler" on it and asked if the defendant would plead guilty to that instead. He did so. I met him about five minutes later when he realized he'd made a mistake and wanted to get back in front of the judge and rescind his plea.

[I just tried to look the case up in the county's court computer system, but it only shows a fraction of his dozens of criminal cases and sadly does not include this one, so I am unaware of the final disposition]