I would like that argument put forwards to the fashion editor at Vogue.

One could also make the argument that it is a patriarchal attitude to suggest women are so lacking in agency, that a popular interest amongst woman could be reducible solely to the interest of pleasing men.

Well once women have agency equitable to men maybe we can start figuring these things out in earnest.

Seems like very rich women enjoy fashion a lot.

we live in a society

Women with agency still like fashion. What’s your point about society?

Sorry, It's a bit of a joke (https://happymag.tv/we-live-in-a-society-meme-explained/)

But jokes aside I think it generally applies here, we don't live in an equal society so women don't experience the level of agency men do, even in the presence of wealth.

There are immense pressures for women to like certain things, dress certain ways, etc. Men have their own pressures, but they have more agency when choosing how to dress specifically. Can you think of a single woman CEO that can get away with dressing like Mark Zuckerberg or Jack Dorsey, for example?

An equal critique though would be - can you think of a man who can get away with dressing in women’s clothing? You might find some gay men but you won’t find straight men getting away with it - generally speaking.

Yet - women wearing mens clothing choices is very normal.

I’m not saying men have it worse or anything btw - just giving vision to the other side which is ignored often. Men have simplistic wardrobes out of habit but also because they literally are so limited in what they can wear. Choose your bottom - pants, pants, jeans, or pants. Choose your top - polo, button down, or t-shirt. Those are your options. You can try to add layers like a scarf, sweater, suit jacket, etc. but mens fashion is inherently way more limited due to gender norms. It’s not a surprise that you see CEOs wearing the same thing everyday because they’re like, “well, what else can I fucking wear? I can’t wear different dresses everyday with different cuts and patterns and designs. It’s not masculine. I’ll be ridiculed.” So they go with what is exceptionally boring and repeatable because very few people will even notice to begin with…

Even when men just accessorize - it becomes a costume and a joke. Prime example - Bezos wore a cowboy hat. Now it’s a costume you can buy off Amazon because of the cowboy hat. It should really show you how men cannot wear almost anything outside the norms without heavy critique. So they go with what is safest and normalized and just wear that every single day.

yes there are norms and expectations restricting everyone, but typically the expectations for women involve always doing more, especially when it comes to clothing… doing less is often unacceptable whereas some of the most successful men in the industry put almost zero effort into the way they dress… a woman putting such low effort into clothing likely wouldn’t even make it to the same position to begin with

I think you completely missed the point.

What do you mean get away with? If Zuckerberg was a woman and dressed way down. She would still be one of the richest motherfuckers in existence!

My point is that women are held to higher standards about how they look and dress, and that’s why there’s not an equally successful woman that wears jeans and a hoodie to work. I can’t even think of a single example… but I can list like 5 dudes in the same category off the top of my head.