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Re:Regulators Shut Down Lending Platform (YC Alum) LendUp by noduerme on Thursday December 23, 2021 @05:25AM (#29660476)
I upvoted because it's spot on. Those are exactly the drivers to get seriously rich. And you spotted me. I don't need to be rich or drive a lambo. Need for fuck-you money comes from a couple places, that I've seen: * Dad was abusive, always put you down. You never felt good enough, you need to prove you're better than him. I had this. My brothers had it. One of them makes $3M a year and desperately tries to use it to impress our father. I guess watching that act made me realize that's a fuckin futile way to spend your time. * You had some other form of humiliation, maybe you're short or ugly, girls don't give you the time of day. (I'm short and not terribly attractive - girls like me well enough if we get talking, and I always play poor on dates, although I pay for things. I never, ever want someone to like me more because.. [edit] double edit here. At my ultra-rich brother's wedding, his wife stood up to give a speech and she said: " I always thought [brother] was short, but I realized he was a lot taller when he was standing on his wallet! " Needless to say, they got divorced and he's still paying for it ).

Just since we're speaking very bluntly. I found that when I'm single, I can usually meet a girl if I stick around somewhere until the end of the night. But I usually don't do that unless I'm starving. So you're exactly right, having the focus and having the need are two different things.

The only place where I personally think you're wrong is your overall pitch - "don't be this guy [noduerme]" - to young fellas that think getting rich is the end-all. Like said, if I needed it enough, I'd spend my time trying to get fuck-you money and be rich by those standards. But proving the size of my dick just isn't something I need to do, know what I'm sayin? And funny enough, that blase attitude I've developed about it really fucking pisses off the ultra-rich people in my life.

Re:Regulators Shut Down Lending Platform (YC Alum) LendUp by lordnacho on Thursday December 23, 2021 @07:23AM (#29661147)
I've always found the real thing that people don't like, and I don't like, is the desire for approval. That childlike "look at me" thing that is endearing in a child but off-putting in an adult. I've seen it a few times among quite wealthy people, eg they try to impress you with how much wine they drink or how many cars they have, and it only works superficially. It's like a child somehow, and you often see them spouting their mundane thoughts in the media as if people want to hear what they think, or they start writing advice for other people to get rich.

The thing about socializing is you discover that if someone has one of these hangups (women, money, intelligence) everyone around them will let them demonstrate it. It's painful to watch sometimes. "Sure I'll try your car one more time". "Wow you're really smart".

By contrast I know genuinely megarich people who can't be identified as such, because they just don't have that need for approval.

Re:Regulators Shut Down Lending Platform (YC Alum) LendUp by noduerme on Thursday December 23, 2021 @07:49AM (#29661334)
There is no one I feel sadder for than the ultra-rich people I know who desperately want to just be liked. They're stuck in that phase of pre-school where it's like, "Look at how many legos I have! Do you want to play with my toys?" This is so superficially obvious, when you see it, I mean... you have to feel pity, because they're so desperate for love. For any real connection. And they can't trust anyone, either, because they'll never believe someone actually likes them for who they are. Having more money than you need to live comfortably is a fucking curse.
Re:Regulators Shut Down Lending Platform (YC Alum) LendUp by irl_chad on Thursday December 23, 2021 @08:22AM (#29661568)
You’re incredibly wrong. Rich people just make friends with other rich people.

Speaking from experience, I don’t care if girls want me for my $. But I’m not looking for a wife right now. If I was, I would probably date women that I meet at higher social events instead of lingerie models.

I have a couple friends from before I got rich, but most of my friends now have similar status.

Re:Regulators Shut Down Lending Platform (YC Alum) LendUp by noduerme on Thursday December 23, 2021 @09:15AM (#29661978)
> Rich people just make friends with other rich people.

Those aren't friends. They're friendly competition. At best they're good to commiserate with. They're out to prove the same thing; they wouldn't be friends with you if you weren't rich. For proof, they think they have a lot of friends, but those people work for them.

> I don’t care if girls want me for my $

Recipe for disaster. I've seen so many people use their wealth as a tool of attracting women. You just magnetize the worst possible people to you. Tempting as it is - I'd rather front as a poor hippie and meet girls who like my personality. If they find out I have money, that's a bonus later, once I know they're solid & trustworthy people.