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Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by tablespoon on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @03:29PM (#29641719)
> As they say, the path to Hell is paved with good intentions...

The other path to Hell is to not act on good intentions.

> With misguided laws like this I wouldn't of been offered a job.

No, you're just making that assumption.

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by rytcio on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @04:52PM (#29642576)
> The other path to Hell is to not act on good intentions.

Only if you ignore unintended consequences

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by tablespoon on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @05:16PM (#29642778)
> Only if you ignore unintended consequences

Some people seem to think the hand-waved threat of "unintended consequences" should be enough to kill any policy they happen to dislike. It's not.

I'm tired of the broken record fearmongering about unintended consequences, especially when it's paired (as it always is) with no constructive alternative to address the problem in question. It's an unpersuasive attempt at preventing improvement to the status quo.

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by 999900000999 on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @06:38PM (#29643482)
I don't see anything that needs improving.

If you don't have the courage to ask how much the job pays on the first call that's your problem. If you agree to a certain wage that's what you agreed to.

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by tablespoon on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @02:58AM (#29646625)
> I don't see anything that needs improving.

So? The kind of information asymmetry that this regulation addresses is an actual issue, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

> If you don't have the courage to ask how much the job pays on the first call that's your problem.

That's not the problem something like this is meant to solve. Rather, it's probably meant to deal with situations like when an employer low-balls someone who doesn't know what they're worth, and they take the offer because they don't know any better. Eventually someone like that will probably get wise, but this gives them a much cheaper shortcut to that knowledge.

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by DarylZero on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @12:17AM (#29645838)
This lets you see the salary before you even choose to apply.

By the way, your whole story makes no sense. If you weren't qualified why did you even get an interview?

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by 999900000999 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @02:06AM (#29646337)
Startups tend to take chances on less qualified candidates to save money.

There's plenty of opportunity in this country if you're willing to work for it.

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by DarylZero on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @08:12AM (#29648831)
You're just saying startups have lower qualification requirements.

The question is: how do you get an interview _for a position_ where you don't meet the requirements _for that position_?

So if it's a startup, then you don't meet the lowered requirements of that startup.

It doesn't make sense. They wouldn't interview you if you didn't meet their requirements.

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by 999900000999 on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @09:11AM (#29649493)
You're free to believe whatever you want. They originally advertised a position which paid about twice as much as what I ended up taking. They expected years upon years of specific experience, I showed them a couple of mobile apps I made and they decided to hire me at a lower rate.

That job changed my life, I'd rather just accept some people are going to make more and some are going to make less then create a dystopia where you need 10 pages of documentation to justify every hiring. There's no way this law is going to work out the way people think it well, if anything it encourages less full-time work. If you run the risk of being audited by a fairness officer, why not just outsource it instead?

Why not lean on consultants more?

As discussed elsewhere, many companies are just not hiring people from Colorado, which has a similar law. I can't find a better example of this not working.

Re:New York City to require employers to list minimum and ma... by DarylZero on Wednesday December 22, 2021 @06:37PM (#29656869)
> They expected years upon years of specific experience

They demonstrably didn't, since they interviewed/followed up. That's why your story doesn't add up.

Not doubting whatever you say happened, just your interpretation doesn't make sense.