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Re:Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels ag... by rsfern on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:18AM (#29624023)
That’s not how I read the abstract of this paper.

Moderna: (2, 8) + (7, 11) extra cases per million

Covid: (38, 41)

(95% confidence intervals)

Re:Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels ag... by NomeChomsky on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:23AM (#29624073)
See figure 2. Double shot of Moderna has higher chance of myocarditis than covid does. They do add this to the conclusions of the paper, but they defocus it by talking about the populations as one large unbroken dataset.

When looking at people under 40, the risks for myocarditis are higher amongst Moderna double shot patients than for covid infections.

Re:Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels ag... by rsfern on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:47AM (#29624282)
Right, that’s fair, I was overreacting a bit because you left out the age qualifier.

For reference the under 40 stats are (4, 9) + (12, 16) extra events for moderna vs (7, 11) for infection

Re:Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels ag... by NomeChomsky on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:50AM (#29624302)
That's a 50% increase in relative risk. Or as the pharma companies would call it, 'a risk increase of 50%'
Re:Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels ag... by incrudible on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:23AM (#29624077)
Averages are misleading. All the risk is concentrated in the group under 40, where it is higher for the vaccine.
Re:Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels ag... by NomeChomsky on Monday December 20, 2021 @07:50AM (#29624312)
That group is also men and women. If it were broken down even further to just 'men' the effect would likely be even more pronounced.