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Re:The Big DevOps Misunderstanding by stepbeek on Monday December 20, 2021 @06:37AM (#29623699)
> There's a reason why AWS oncalls are infamous whereas Google's are not.

Could market share be a significant factor here?

Re:The Big DevOps Misunderstanding by ayberk on Monday December 20, 2021 @03:11PM (#29629632)
It really isn't.

It's just the cultural difference between the two companies. I have been told that GCP oncalls are a lot busier than rest of the Google, but it's still nowhere close to the suffering I had at AWS. It's an organizational pain and comes from the mindset AWS has towards software development and their engineers.

Re:The Big DevOps Misunderstanding by amzn-throw on Monday December 20, 2021 @04:14PM (#29630365)
AWS's mindset is software is useless without customers. Google doesn't seem to have the same care - it's a charity for academic software engineers to spend AdSense revenue on abstract high level computer science problems not caring about practical applications.

It's why most Google X ideas flame out. It's why there's a new chat app every year.

But - it's a net positive for humanity. Google publishes a lot of papers, and I think genuinely has moved humanity forward in the last few decades.

I don't have a PhD and I don't do L33tcode, so I don't think I'm smart enough to be at Google, but honestly I don't know if I would want to be.

I prefer shipping.

Re:The Big DevOps Misunderstanding by ayberk on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @01:07PM (#29640204)
I'm sure you're more than enough smart to be at Google :) It's just practice and luck.

I completely agree that people who prefer to ship fast would be happier at AWS. I've heard all the horror stories about how slow Google is, but I think GCP has a great balance between speed and quality. I'm definitely happier here, but I understand why some people would be happier at AWS.