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Re:Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job by lotsofpulp on Sunday December 19, 2021 @11:57AM (#29615602)
> The magnitude of latency isn't rewarded, just coming in first, so more and is spent on less an less absolute improvements, none of which have been relevant to human reaction times for decades.

So why are the HFT firms earning profits? There is no law that says people are obligated to do business with them. There is no law that says people have to buy at the prices HFT firms are selling at and sell at the prices HFT firms are buying at.

Re:Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job by cma on Sunday December 19, 2021 @01:18PM (#29616593)
If someone come in and beats them by .001ns they get all their profits. Is .001ns really worth that reward? The utility provided is mostly detached from the reward, it is just winner gets it.
Re:Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job by lotsofpulp on Sunday December 19, 2021 @01:40PM (#29616862)
Worth what reward? Once an HFT firm buys a security, they now have to sell it again. Or vice versa if they sell a security. Do you think they earn a profit on every trade? There is risk in every trade, sometimes they overpay, sometimes they underpay.

It makes no material difference to the profits of a buy and hold investor. If it did, buy and hold investors would not trade with HFT firms.

Re:Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job by cma on Sunday December 19, 2021 @08:51PM (#29620728)
The liquidity provider reward or index/underlying arbitrage reward, etc. Yes there is a stochastic component and various other things, I'm only talking about the edge from lower latency.
Re:Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job by mgaunard on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:51PM (#29619349)
Not all markets are deterministic, in some there is some level of jitter so fastest guy doesn't always win anyway. Some markets also take steps to prevent the speed game too in how they define the rules.

While for obvious big moves it might be all about latency, most events are more about the quality of your pricing, incorporating correlated information, edge requirement and risk management that decides what you go for and what you don't, and for those smarter trades you usually have microseconds to spare.