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Re:Outbreak caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in Norw... by maeil on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:53AM (#29612936)
The end goal of any measure, including vaccine passes, has always been the same: preventing a large number of deaths. Vacccines still prevent a large number of deaths, both directly (strongly reduced risk of death from Covid) and indirectly (reduced strain on the healthcare system). These hold true even if vaccines only effect outcomes after getting Covid and have zero effect on transmission rates at all, they're not up for discussion. As such there really isn't much of an ethical dillema here. There is plenty of data available on all of these points. Whether someone somewhere incorrectly touted vaccines as stopping transmission at any point isn't worth discussion, it's just another one to add to the list of "uninformed statements made about vaccines" which is billions of lines long at this point.
Re:Outbreak caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in Norw... by prohobo on Sunday December 19, 2021 @05:59AM (#29612981)
If we're being charitable, the end goal of vaccine passes is to "nudge" people into getting the vaccine.
Re:Outbreak caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in Norw... by usrusr on Sunday December 19, 2021 @07:38AM (#29613424)
The goal of vaccine passes is to allow business to open for some that would not be allowed to open for anyone otherwise. The nudge is merely a minor but welcome side-effect.
Re:Outbreak caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in Norw... by tomp on Sunday December 19, 2021 @08:18AM (#29613681)
This cannot be true. The same goal could trivially be achieved simply by not forcing the businesses to close in the first place.
Re:Outbreak caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in Norw... by usrusr on Sunday December 19, 2021 @08:48AM (#29613897)
That's what you believe, but GP was talking about intent and for that only the thoughts of the people doing all the "intending" count. People that believe that not closing is a good idea are usually not the ones proposing vaccination pass schemes (but some of them might still gladly accept them as a compromise)