Re:I was part of a human subject research study without my c...
by radu_floricica on Sunday December 19, 2021 @07:07AM
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The irony of calling Scott Alexander "deeply ignorant" :)
Human challenge trials. Hundreds of thousands of dead later, and we're still using statistics to answer questions like "is Omicron ignoring immunity", instead of answering them definitely in a few days with an absolute minimum of risk. I'd volunteer for that, btw, so would literally millions. But it's just not inside the Overton window. This isn't wisdom or caution. It's plain cowardice.
Re:I was part of a human subject research study without my c...
by seebs on Sunday December 19, 2021 @11:03AM
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The reason for this isn't "cowardice", though. I've read a lot of things by practicing people in the field on reasons for which they don't think human challenge trials produce reliable enough data. (Basically: You don't get a representative sample, and you get an unrepresentative sample in ways that are very likely to result in you getting bad data.) There's other reasons to distrust them, and I don't think your assumption that "an absolute minimum of risk" is really on the table is even defensible. And on the whole I think we probably should be using them anyway, with caveats -- but your argumentation here is bad.
Re:I was part of a human subject research study without my c...
by radu_floricica on Sunday December 19, 2021 @01:19PM
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Putting aside the question on how useful they are, why do you think my assumption is not defensible?
FWIW, the author of the essay at the link you provided seems deeply ignorant of why IRBs exist. "Mere resident doctors weren’t allowed to do studies on their own. They would probably screw up and start building concentration camps or something. " really?