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Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by throw_m239339 on Friday December 17, 2021 @09:21PM (#29600907)
> Standardized test scores do very little to predict college success when controlling for other variables. And they're trivial to game.

needs sources, and unbiased ones.

Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by SquishyPanda23 on Tuesday December 21, 2021 @05:17PM (#29642786)
This is a very well studied field, just do a Google search
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by unclebucknasty on Friday December 17, 2021 @09:51PM (#29601101)
Do you have unbiased sources that indicate otherwise?
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by throw_m239339 on Friday December 17, 2021 @11:34PM (#29601682)
> Do you have unbiased sources that indicate otherwise?

The burden of proof lies with the person making a claim.

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Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by gameman144 on Friday December 17, 2021 @11:56PM (#29601792)
Wait, am I missing something? The child comment didn't refute the OP's point.

OP's point was "This sucks, they're doing away with objective criteria."

Child comment's points was "They are indeed doing away with objective criteria. These criteria are not valuable though "

The only claim made there was the child comment's claim that these (admittedly objective) criteria are not valuable. That claim was not backed up.

Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by unclebucknasty on Saturday December 18, 2021 @09:41AM (#29604785)
>OP's point was "This sucks, they're doing away with objective criteria."

Actually, standardized testing does not represent objective criteria for a number of reasons, so that's an incorrect assumption.

But, my point was why do we also just assume that it "sucks" to do away with it? Where's the evidence that they are effective criteria?

If we're demanding proof that they are not effective, then it's fair to question how we established they are effective in the first place. Else, it's really just a default assumption that represents a positive assertion (i.e. an unsubstantiated claim).

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Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by unclebucknasty on Saturday December 18, 2021 @01:01AM (#29602119)
>This is not reddit

I've been on HN for several years. The quality was once much higher than it is now, but HNers have always been willing to call out posturing and logical holes.

>You have absolutely nothing to contribute but useless rhetoric. I asked for sources to whomever I responded to,..

Right. And if you already agreed with SquishyPanda's statement, you would not have requested a source. So, I just asked you to source why you believe what you believe. Why is that any different? In fact, that answer would add more to the thread.

I mean, if you believe standardized tests are valid for the stated purposes, then that's the positive assertion. Have you questioned it?

If not, then why not? If so, then what did you conclude and on what evidence? Please share.

>Just don't waste my time with these pointless comments of yours.

To be fair, I asked you for a source, just as you did of someone else. You wasted your own time with your unsolicited rant.