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Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by Glyptodon on Friday December 17, 2021 @07:02PM (#29599868)
And no pesky criteria to hamper their desire to admit the children of the 1% either.
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by civilized on Friday December 17, 2021 @07:07PM (#29599910)
It turns out you can achieve both social justice and a powerful alumni donation base -- er, competent educated elite -- simply by admitting the top 1% of each race by income. Who knew? If you're Harvard, you can do good AND do well!
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by blagie on Saturday December 18, 2021 @04:34AM (#29603159)
That's not really the Harvard way. The Harvard way is:

* Take about 2/5 of students from the elites

* Take about 3/5 of students who are brilliant

Students of the elites look smart by association. Students who are brilliant are brought into powerful, moneyed social networks. It works well for everyone involved.

The focus on alumni donations is a little bit overblown. Harvard has way more money than it needs. What Harvard looks for is a lot richer than that. The alumni base is part of the national -- and increasingly international -- power structure. A president of some country, a high court justice, or similar sorts of power positions can be at least as important as a billionaire. Likewise, branding is important. The current push on DEI is to make sure that (1) the brand doesn't suffer (2) DEI-focused positions are filled by elite school alumni, and not focused on actual change to power structures.

Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by PeterisP on Friday December 17, 2021 @09:02PM (#29600801)
Not necessarily, some of the 0.1% may have poor opinion of the other, may have specific expectations about the environment for their offspring and not every group is equally influential. For example, since we're talking about Harvard - it definitely wasn't purely about money when in 1920s Harvard implemented Lowell's quota to reduce the number of Jewish students.
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by throwawaylinux on Friday December 17, 2021 @09:35PM (#29601001)
I wonder if they believe that this time they're on the right side of history in their quest to reduce the proportion of Asian students.
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by noah_buddy on Friday December 17, 2021 @07:49PM (#29600252)
Just like Robinhood always says: "take from the rich and give back to the rich."
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by wbsss4412 on Friday December 17, 2021 @08:50PM (#29600721)
Everyone want to go after the exceedingly small percentage of black and Latino students that get boosted into the Ivy League and somehow in these discussions legacies always seem to get a pass.

(Though obviously not in this case because you correctly called it out)

Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by jollybean on Friday December 17, 2021 @10:57PM (#29601484)
Paradoxically you've hit upon both marks:

Ivy League this year will have material overrepresentation of Latino and Black kids, substantial overrepresentation of Asian and Jewish kids, and up to 10% 'Children of Alumni', another overrepresentation.

Which leaves those not in those groups out in the lurch.

Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by dehrmann on Saturday December 18, 2021 @03:05AM (#29602719)
You're thinking the 0.01%. The 0.1% got busted trying to pass off their kids as athletes. The 1% can afford good school districts, extra curriculars, and test prep.
Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by hgfjjgff on Saturday December 18, 2021 @02:45AM (#29602620)
It didn’t stop them in the first place.

And one’s ability to pass the SAT proves only that one can pass the SAT. It just proves they were privileged enough to have some one teach them “the tricks and tactics to pass the test” - not understanding, not potential, and not intelligence.

Re:Harvard won’t require SAT or ACT through 2026 as test-opt... by chillacy on Saturday December 18, 2021 @10:14AM (#29605027)
Couldn’t one also say that getting into Harvard just proves they were privileged enough to jump the criteria for selection? Eg parents sent them to volunteer abroad and varsity crew? How can any admissions criteria not get gamed over time?