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Re:Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the... by kenrose on Friday December 17, 2021 @08:14AM (#29591646)
That’s not how burden of proof works.

OP made a claim that Drata collects private employee info and resells it. That’s a large claim.

It’s on OP to justify that position, not on the parent to rebut the opposite.

Re:Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the... by illud_tempus on Saturday December 18, 2021 @04:21AM (#29603099)
> OP made a claim that Drata collects private employee info and resells it. That’s a large claim.

What I know is:

1) They collect mandatory private information. They already know my name and my email, and they used that information to ask me to complete some tasks on their website. I don't know what those tasks are, because I first have to accept their TOS, which contains clauses that is referred to, but not disclosed. I declined.

2) Their "webpage" is part of their service. This is where I supply personal information (presumably more than they already have). So unless they have another TOS, after I accept the publicly available one, that's the rules: I have to give them personal data, because my employer (well, in my case it's my customer, not my employer - Drata have no agreement with my employer) signed a contract with them.

3) They give themselves the right, in the websites TOS, to sell my data.

So: 1 + 2 + 3 = Drata collects private employee info and resells it.

Re:Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the... by CoastalCoder on Friday December 17, 2021 @11:42AM (#29594598)
IIUC, "Burden of proof" (as a concept) is meaningful in fora where there are agreed-upon standards of evidence. E.g., a courtroom or a formal debate.

My impression is that HN conversations are less regulated. Someone can make a claim, and each reader can decide how much merit it deserves, and if/how to discuss it further.

Re:Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the... by daneel_w on Friday December 17, 2021 @10:31AM (#29593513)
It is a large claim. I'd say there's a bit of burden on both sides as the parent called it out as nonsense. They're implying they know for a fact that it doesn't breach privacy/integrity.
Re:Ask HN: My client want an agent on my laptop. Is this the... by matheusmoreira on Friday December 17, 2021 @11:31AM (#29594439)
Burden of proof doesn't really matter. If this company wants people to trust its software "agents", they should be making every effort to convince them. Free software goes a long way.