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Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by rramadass on Thursday December 16, 2021 @10:21PM (#29587283)
>about the non-linear nature of programming work

You hit the nail right on the head.

This is the main thing that non-programmers (i.e. Management) need to understand about "Programmers" and the key to "Manage" them effectively.

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Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by mihaigalos on Friday December 17, 2021 @02:48AM (#29589144)
Steve Jobs had an opinion on this with which I agree:

> The greatest people are self-managing -- they don't need to be managed. Once they know what to do, they'll go figure out how to do it. What they need is a common vision. And that's what leadership is: having a vision; being able to articulate that so the people around you can understand it; and getting a consensus on a common vision.

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Re:Ask HN: Are most of us developers lying about how much wo... by rramadass on Friday December 17, 2021 @03:35AM (#29589490)
Good quote.

Related quote from Scott McNealy : "Agree and commit, Disagree and commit, or get out of the way."

Too many times Management/Leadership devolves into giving orders without having a clue. It then becomes nothing more than a power trip to the detriment of everything and everybody.

All "Good" people just need Autonomy, Vision, Freedom and stellar Results will auto-magically follow.

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