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Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by geebee on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @01:03PM (#29583)
They guy has a point here. I think facebook wasn't the greatest example, but in general, people are in danger of ossifying as they age.

I'm in my mid-30s now, and I know some people who are, or at least were, really good programmers. But I was amazed recently when they didn't really know what Ruby on Rails was, or django, or AJAX. I'm not trying to play buzzword bingo here, and I certainly don't think people need to know these things in detail, or agree that they're good tools. But it is very alarming that they draw a blank. These aren't obscure technologies - if you haven't even heard of them, you clearly aren't paying attention.

I suppose the 30+ set could get insular enough that nobody brings these things up.. whereas it's nearly impossible not to learn about them if you hang with a younger crowd.

That said, I had a professor in college who was over 70. He could write programs on the whiteboard that would compile without a single syntax error - it was bizarre. He was unbelievably up-to-date. And it wasn't out of some kind of old man and the sea stubbornness, it was just deep in his personality to keep reading, hacking, knowing what's up.

You can't tell who has a drinking problem in college, because everyone drinks too much - you have to wait and see who's still overdoing it 10 years later. By the same token, maybe you can't tell who the true hackers are until they've considered and rejected the opportunity to fade away...

Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by wschroter on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @01:48PM (#29598)
You're totally on point with what I'm saying. It's about the fact that when you get older the crowd you run in is worrying about mortgage payments, spouses and kids. You don't have the time or curiosity to engage new stuff and share it with your friends like you used to.

And yes, there is probably SOME GUY out there that does. It's a trend, not an absolute rule.

Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by koolmoe on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @04:08PM (#29626)
None of these "assets" that are supposedly lost after 30 are a function of age. Yes, there is likely a correlation.

However, even if there is a trend to be observed, the information is only useful to someone trying to select from a group of candidates, and then only if the selector is unable to distinguish between candidates on the basis of the desired characteristics. The trend is of no use to the candidates.

Thinking that you have an advantage simply because you are young is foolhardy. Lamenting that you are at a disadvantage because you are over 30 most likely reveals your lack of fortitude. You either are (and intelligent curious dedicated &rest important-attributes) or you are not.

Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by Tichy on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @03:06PM (#29610)
Friends of my age are all having children right now. That way I learned about the existence of pages like http://lilypie.com/ which seems to cater for parents. What if something like that is the next killer-app? Older people would be more likely to create an application like that, I would think. Why should the "teen apps" be the only ones that are interesting?
Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by wschroter on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @03:55PM (#29621)
It's not that the "teen" apps are the ones that matter. Don't take Facebook / Myspace so literally. It's pointing to the fact that major opportunities are being created that are obvious to one generation and almost oblivous from another.
Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by geebee on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @04:10PM (#29629)
Another factor can be that the previous generation doesn't see what's such a big deal about a groundbreaking technology. A lot of the folks 10 years older than me had trouble seeing what was so revolutionary about HTML and a browser (you're requesting a file and displaying it through a markup language? OK... and how is this different?) Personally, it took me a long time to grasp why blogging offered so much more than just maintaining a personal website (that said, RSS did seem very cool from the get-go). Facebook was hard to distinguish from earlier (may I call them 1.0?) applications that were "basically a bunch of web pages linked together" (a bunch of these went down with the first dot-com bubble).

So another risk is too much awareness - rather than being technically clueless, the older crowd goes too far in the other direction.

A handful of genes separates a human fom a sea cumcumber (ok, maybe a little more than a handful)... uhh, how is this different from using DNA to make more DNA? ;)

Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by wschroter on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @06:07PM (#29675)
@ Tichy - I really like your point about a younger generation missing out on an older trend. Perhaps we're just used to seeing more opportunities creep up from the younger generation than vice versa.

Point well made.

Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by Tichy on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @04:11PM (#29630)
Sure, and I have asked myself that question before: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22696

But in theory it works both ways - older generations might see business opportunities the younger ones are missing. I know I wish I had thought more about certain things when I was younger...

And since society seems to be aging, the advantage might actually be on the side of the older generation.

Re:The Most Important Assets you Lose when you're over 30 by gyro_robo on Wednesday June 20, 2007 @04:38PM (#29641)
One might as well equivalently say that younger people are missing out on life (relationships, kids, etc.) by being preoccupied with their online networks.

I think both observations are missing the point that younger and older people have different experiences, and neither is inherently better.

There's nothing stopping adults from getting into the younger scene en masse except a lack of interest. They just have different things they like to do which are no more or less valid.