Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by CRImier on Thursday December 16, 2021 @11:26AM
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When you read "Linux malware", do you interpret it as "malware baked into Linux"?
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Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by wvenable on Thursday December 16, 2021 @12:33PM
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In this case, I definitely interpreted it as "baked into PinePhone" like the commenter.
Admittedly the same headline that says "iPhone Malware Surprises Users" would probably read the other way. It depends a bit on the subject. If it said "Lenovo Malware Surprises Users" I'd it expect it baked in too rather than just malware that just effects Lenovos.
"Malware for PinePhone" would make it clearer.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by CRImier on Thursday December 16, 2021 @02:04PM
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Thank you, I see this viewpoint better now. Not certain I'd make the headline different knowing this, but this is good to keep in mind.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by GhettoComputers on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:15PM
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> In this case, I definitely interpreted it as "baked into PinePhone" like the commenter.
Pinephone doesn’t make software, it just makes hardware. It’s philosophy is they make hardware that’s easy to hack. All the software is community maintained and not official.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by TrickardRixx on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:20PM
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I also read it as "baked into PinePhone".
As to why, well the headline didn't include the fact that the PinePhone ships with no software. So that's not information I had at the time.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by GhettoComputers on Thursday December 16, 2021 @04:14PM
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I was wrong the new ones do have software but nothing official, so its not really baked as much as random distros from random people.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by GhettoComputers on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:23PM
(#29583380)
Most SBC don’t come with software.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by megous on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:30PM
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Pinephone ships with software, and aside maybe from some early dev units, it always did.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by GhettoComputers on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:33PM
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What does it ship with? I don’t thing mine did, and Pine64’s philosophy was we make the hardware, you make the software, aside from PineBook’s KDE edition off the top of my head.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by megous on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:45PM
(#29583660)
UT, Manjaro, Mobian, pmOS. Even the back covers had logos of what each batch shipped with. Now it's just Manjaro on all the Beta phones.
That they don't write the software doesn't mean they don't ship with it.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by GhettoComputers on Thursday December 16, 2021 @04:02PM
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Thanks! I don’t remember mine having it but it had been a while, the unlocked bootloader is a security threat that xiaomi had where malware was flashed, so it’s probably a good idea they don’t ship with software for security reasons, it’s such an easy target.
Re:PinePhone Malware Surprises Users, Raises Questions
by bravetraveler on Thursday December 16, 2021 @06:15PM
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To be fair if I were to read it paired with, 'surprises users' like this headline - I might be prone to assuming an out-of-the-box discovery