Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre...
by rmind on Thursday December 16, 2021 @10:11AM
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NATO never promised to not expand, see Myth 3 here: https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/05/myths-and-misconception...
Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre...
by tut-urut-utut on Thursday December 16, 2021 @10:40AM
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And the source of the analysis of the "myth" is Chatham House, an "independent" organization led by two ex British prime ministers and one ex MI5 member.
Just look at the list of the Chatham House Prize winners [1] and try to find one person there that is not anti russian.
I guess one could find State Department press releases less biased than this organization.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_House#Chatham_House_Pr...
Re:Russian court accidentally confirmed Russian military pre...
by VictorPath on Thursday December 16, 2021 @11:44AM
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Even your link does not say what you say.
It says US secretary of state James Baker told Gorbachev NATO forces would not move east from Germany. Then it goes into that there is a lack of formal, legal enforcement of these promises, and how the US changed its mind later. So even this source with its leanings does not say what you say.
It was the Russia / USSR that agreed to let Ukraine alone as long as they guarantee human rights and equal status of ethnic Russian / Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine (but majority in East Ukraine and Crimea).
It was the Russia and USA that agreed to restrict usage of the nuclear missiles in Europe.
Guess who broke all those treaties and agreements and now has balls to accuse the opposite party for the current situation.
Even thousands of years ago, Sun Tzu said you should not push your enemy to the wall where his only choice is to fight to death or just die, and NATO is still doing that.
It's not how you de-escalate things, and I hope the reason would overcome, unless we want to experience a nuclear winter.