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Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by vmception on Thursday December 16, 2021 @12:16AM (#29575193)
Or like just a terms of service interpretation that they didn't even know of

Platformless internet, whats what people mean by web3 and I’m here for it

A public utility that can just be optionally used no matter what people think of you

Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by arpa on Thursday December 16, 2021 @12:54AM (#29575404)
it once was like this already. You can spin up your site anytime. You can use tor hidden services to make yourself uncensorable. No need for crypto, pay in knowledge only. And that's why web 1.0 was superior.

edit, ok, tor appeared with web2.0, but still it is more of a web 1.3.

Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by vmception on Thursday December 16, 2021 @01:29AM (#29575593)
yes web 1.0 had potential but the consolidation of platforms and their protocols made it untenable

ISPs can deplatform

ICANN and ENOM can deplatform

Nations can force them to deplatform and effectively censor

your web 1.0 server can be unreachable or unable to serve data

a TOR onion service is subject to the same distributed denial of service

Reading from a blockchain is not, and the costs for writing to it are one-off and low

Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by dmitriid on Thursday December 16, 2021 @02:07AM (#29575819)
> yes web 1.0 had potential but the consolidation of platforms and their protocols made it untenable

Unlike web3, where they platforms chose to write custom metadata to the blockchain and interpret as they so chose... Oh wait.

Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by vmception on Thursday December 16, 2021 @03:05AM (#29576129)
lol. I can appreciate that take.

there likely will be a day where there is nobody left who knows how to use dominant blockchains and rely on a few company controlled platforms to do everything for them, so there is nobody left to communicate with when using the public utilities in the most raw form.

For now, that's not the case and education is expanding. Not as fast as the uneducated users of blockchains, but some of them dive deeper too.

Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by dmitriid on Thursday December 16, 2021 @04:31AM (#29576565)
> For now, that's not the case

Even now this is the case. It's a bit more spread because many people jump on the bandwagon and try to maximize their scams^W profits.

But then you get news like "Peter Molyneux releasing next game on Gala Games platform", and this is exactly what I'm talking about.

It doesn't matter how many users and devs you "educate". If Platform X doesn't recognize Platform Y's metadata, no amount of blockchain will help you.

Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by arpa on Thursday December 16, 2021 @05:50AM (#29576997)
somebody will still have to store and serve the blockchain, right? So same problems...
Re:Google Sues Glupteba botnet [pdf] by ipaddr on Thursday December 16, 2021 @01:19AM (#29575535)
No you can't any visitor using chrome gives away your hidden public website. Recreating web 1.0 with todays spyware browsers requires a tor setup.