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Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by frgtpsswrdlame on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:34PM (#29573800)
>Prosecutorial discretion is the law of the land, after all.

I don't understand what you're getting at. She was given discretion and she misused it. That seems like a really obvious reason to go after her.

Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by dukeofdoom on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @09:05PM (#29573993)
When the regime in Iraq failed, I wonder how many people went after judges and prosecutors to settle scores. These people use decorum to present themselves as righteous arbiters of justice and civility, but often are nothing more than political hacks destroying countless lives.
Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by dvt on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:35PM (#29573807)
> I don't understand what you're getting at. She was given discretion and she misused it.

Discretion means that you're permitted to make whatever decision you think is best. Misusing discretion is an oxymoron.

Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by jcheng on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:49PM (#29573901)
> Misusing discretion is an oxymoron.

IANAL (are you?) but "abuse of discretion" seems to be a thing

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/abuse_of_discretion

https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-5-government-organization... (2-A)

Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by taeric on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:43PM (#29573863)
But showing someone has poor discretion is the point.

As an example, defending someone that had such generally agreed poor discretion is not, generally, showing good discretion either.

Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by dvt on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:46PM (#29573879)
You're conflating the colloquial use of the word "discretion" with the legal term.
Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by Turing_Machine on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:53PM (#29573936)
Nothing about either use makes her decisions immune to criticism.

She is a lawyer, not an official in the medieval church.

Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by taeric on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:56PM (#29573950)
I don't really follow. The claim wasn't that she did something she wasn't allowed to do, by law. The claim is that she crossed moral lines by choosing to do so. Or am I missing some context here?

Or do you have a different meaning on what discretion means? Legally and otherwise.

Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by overgard on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:49PM (#29573908)
That's disingenuous, "Discretion" is also defined as "the quality of making good judgements" and "the ability to make responsible decisions" and "the ability to make intelligent decisions". I don't think Carmen exhibited any of those qualities of discretion.

I think a better word for Carmen is unethical bully.

Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by IntrepidWorm on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:52PM (#29573930)
That's fair, imo still a technicality. A better phrasing would be "she was given discretion which she used for her own personal gain."
Re:Carmen Ortiz Has Blood on Her Hands (2013) by landryraccoon on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:48PM (#29573897)
Sorry, are you arguing that the mere fact that something you do isn’t illegal means you can’t be criticized for it?

Would it follow that you can’t criticize Joe Biden for any of his decisions as long as they aren’t actually illegal? I seriously can’t make sense of your position. What’s under dispute is not whether the act was legal but whether it was a horrible idea.