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Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by eloisius on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @09:00AM (#29566001)
Yep. Pretty much all nerd solutions to physical or legal threats are genius but also worse than useless. Here's a $5 hammer, hit him with it until he gives us what we're looking for, so goes the comic I saw once.
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by matheusmoreira on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:50PM (#29570072)
This is effective against legal threats. I remember at least one case in my country where one person was saved by truecrypt. They even asked the FBI for help on decrypting it.

Hopefully civilization is not so far gone that police will imprison, torture or kill for failing to incriminate themselves. If it gets to the point cold-blooded torture is on the table, you'll probably get killed anyway.

Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by kortilla on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @09:08AM (#29566102)
That’s why it needs to be destructive. You can’t beat access to something out of someone if it has been deleted.
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by nkrisc on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @09:43AM (#29566560)
While true, they may beat you anyway just to be sure.
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by ASalazarMX on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:41PM (#29569124)
Big opportunity to implement a kill-switch if the microphone recognizes your screams!
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by jamessb on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @09:45AM (#29566595)
> Here's a $5 hammer, hit him with it until he gives us what we're looking for, so goes the comic I saw once.

You are probably thinking of the $5 wrench in https://xkcd.com/538/

Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by djweis on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @09:48AM (#29566641)
That's referred to as rubber hose cryptography.
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by dane-pgp on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @11:59AM (#29568573)
That's also why Assange (and others) developed the Rubberhose file system[0].

It's based on the game theoretic idea that if your adversary has no way of knowing how many hidden partitions you have, then you have no way of proving to them that you've given them all your secrets.

As such, there is no benefit to you revealing any secrets under torture, because the torture would continue even after you've told them everything, therefore there is no point to them torturing you in the first place.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubberhose_%28file_system%29

Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by ASalazarMX on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:43PM (#29569151)
"JOB OPPORTUNITY: Assassins and mercenaries required. Must be proficient in game theory".

In reality they will torture you until you stop decrypting partitions, and then a bit more of special torture, just in case.

Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by dane-pgp on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:11PM (#29571000)
If they don't understand game theory, that just means they will act sub-optimally. In any case, the correct strategy for the user is still to not decrypt any partitions, since, as you say, the sooner the user stops decrypting, the sooner the torturers give up.
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by r-w on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @07:49PM (#29573528)
I don't think either of has met someone who engages in actual torture, but I imagine they rarely, if ever, “give up”.
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by fwip on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @07:51PM (#29573537)
That seems like a pretty foolish assumption to make of your adversaries/captors.

If a torturer has good reason to believe you have valuable information regarding subject X, they'll simply torture you until they possess that information or you die. If you don't possess the information, you're screwed. If you do possess the information, it's likely that they'll stop after they get what they're after.

Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by multjoy on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:50PM (#29570070)
A state liable to torture you may simply kill you instead. Or torture you and kill you, even if it serves no particular purpose.

If you're in the business of protecting your secrets against torture then you need to also be protecting them against death because that is grimly inevitable.

Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by orthecreedence on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:54PM (#29570794)
"I don't think they wanted me to say anything. It was just their way of having a bit of fun, the swines."
Re:BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops by eloisius on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:50PM (#29573913)
That's not really making the case for clever crypto solutions. Assange is rotting in prison and is probably going to die in the US in the near future. What secret information could he be protecting at this point?