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Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by tpoacher on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:11AM (#29564378)
You have the priors the other way round. The old adage "when you hear gallopping think horses, not zebras" is not valid if you're in a place where zebras are common and horses aren't.

What you say could be true if this person had experienced such events prior to vaccination as well.

Otherwise the probability of having a first episode of ectopic beats within 28 days of the vaccine is far less likely to be due to anxiety in the absense of previous history of anxiety, let alone one with rare symptomatology.

Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by jpe90 on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:31AM (#29564531)
Anxiety is exacerbated during times of stress. Covid is placing unprecedented stress on all of us right now. Getting a vaccine and then hearing it "may cause myocarditis" can be very stressful, and we lose the ability to internalize the caveat that it's attached to a 0.004% incidence rate.

Anxiety also causes you to perceive normal bodily sensations, that you otherwise filtered out, with heightened sensitivity.

"With health anxiety there is the misinterpretation of discomfort and normal bodily sensations as dangerous. The body is very noisy. Healthy human bodies produce all sorts of physical symptoms that might be uncomfortable, unexpected, and unwanted, but not dangerous." https://adaa.org/learn-from-us/from-the-experts/blog-posts/c...

Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by viraptor on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @07:26AM (#29565030)
Also worth remembering that in many locations people will get a survey about side effects after vaccination. That means they be asked "did you experience any heart issues" which is not something they think about every day. If they really think about it, maybe they did that week. And it may or may not be something they experienced before.
Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by martyvis on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:14AM (#29564410)
Except where there is so much disinformation from anti-vaxxers that it induces anxiety in people that are hesitant to get vaccinated
Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by secondcoming on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:38AM (#29564591)
Vaccines causing myocarditis isn't disinformation.
Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by gnfargbl on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @09:20AM (#29566271)
Stating without context that "vaccines cause myocarditis" is indeed disinformation, because it encourages people to irrationally focus on a particular (edge-case) negative outcome, whilst disregarding the (common) positive outcome.

Add the context, and the potential for disinformation goes away: "Vaccines cause myocarditis, but overall at a lower rate than the disease itself. Additionally, the disease has many other, much more significant, risks that are mitigated by vaccination."

The point I'm making is that disinformation is a psychological effect. A statement can be factually true and still be disinformation ("100% of child abusers found to have consumed dihydrogen monoxide", etc.)

Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by dablweb on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:54AM (#29564719)
Can't tell if sarcastic...
Re:Myocarditis associated with Covid-19 compared to mRNA vac... by cujo on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:40AM (#29564609)
You're riding a horse through the zoo, but still thinking it's likely zebras even though you're in the snake house.