Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about
by NavinF on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:18PM
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Hmm did he mean that it doesn’t affect transmission (as in reduce R0) or that it literally can’t prevent transmission (R0 reduced, but still >>0)?
The latter is trivially true. I’m guessing he said it anyway because it was intended for a different audience.
Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about
by tshaddox on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:28PM
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I don’t think they literally reduce illness and death to zero, but just pretty close. I would assume they were using the same definition of “prevent” in both places in that sentence.
Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about
by shkkmo on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:06PM
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Preventing transmission != reducing transmission rates.
The vaccines absolutely do the later.
Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about
by jayrot on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:17PM
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This seems to be so hard for some to understand that it smacks of dis-ingenuity.
Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about
by ejb999 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:30PM
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are you sure about that? - seems right now the most vaccinated states also seem to have the largest spike in cases - I agree the vaccine, at this point anyway, seems to be reducing deaths - but not sure I agree on transmission - seems like it it still spreading worse than before.
And no, I am not an antivaxxer i I am triple vaxxed myself and work in the healthcare field.
Re:Plans you're not supposed to talk about
by shkkmo on Friday December 17, 2021 @10:31AM
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The only real overlap right now is new england, places like the PNW have high vaccinations and low case rates. Regardless, there are so many factors that affect transmission, you can't easily learn much from geographic comparisons due to the impossibility of eliminating the confounds.
However the science is clear, all else being equal, covid vaccines reduce transmission rates.
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky