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Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:14PM (#29555994)
> You know that Smallpox was in cows (aka: Cowpox), right?

It seems unlikely that many cows caught smallpox, given the prevalence of cowpox. Cowpox is a different disease, and was the first vaccine, after which the very concept of "vaccination" is named. Milkmaids had long been known for their immunity to smallpox. If smallpox had been in cows, milkmaids would have been known for universal smallpox exposure instead.

> I'm frankly more flabbergasted that people don't even know the history of diseases

Not a good look.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by dragontamer on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:20PM (#29556077)
> Cowpox is a different disease

That conferred immunity to smallpox. Which makes it about as "different" as Omicron is to Delta or COVID19.

In any case, Cowpox is case-positive proof of animal reservoirs of smallpox.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by makomk on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:45PM (#29556475)
Cowpox produced strong enough immunity to smallpox that a vaccine likely derived from it completely wiped smallpox off the planet, but it's very much not the same disease - cowpox doesn't spread effectively in humans and is much less deadly. There's just really good cross-immunity between the two that made vaccination possible using 18th-century technology and understanding of science, even though their last common ancestor seems to be way back in prehistory.
Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:22PM (#29556114)
> Which makes it about as "different" as Omicron is to Delta or COVID19.

Sure, that's fair.

> In any case, Cowpox is case-positive proof of animal reservoirs of smallpox.

Huh? No, it isn't.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by dragontamer on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:43PM (#29556444)
Fine.

UK eradicated Rabies. I'm pretty sure we all agree Rabies has substantial animal reservoirs, right?

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by stickfigure on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @03:18PM (#29556973)
Rabies only has animal reservoirs, it isn't spread person-to-person. And it appears that the localities that have eradicated rabies have done so by dropping animal baits with oral vaccines.

So... small, mostly deforested island countries may have a good chance against animal-borne viruses that have inexpensive edible vaccines.

The wealthiest country in the world hasn't managed to eradicate rabies. Covid isn't going to end this way.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by dragontamer on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @07:32PM (#29560276)
Leprosy.

There's a lot of diseases we've eradicated. Surely something will come along that you don't have an excuse for.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by stickfigure on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:10AM (#29562338)
Do you believe that covid continues because of excuses or weak wills or something psychological? Or that all "diseases" are equivalent? Perhaps I should read more into your confounding of cowpox with smallpox.

Leprosy is bacterial and treated with antibiotics. Same with bubonic plague, if that was next on your list.

Re:Omicron variant more resistant to vaccine but causes less... by dragontamer on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @12:20AM (#29562399)
> Do you believe that covid continues because of excuses or weak wills or something psychological?

I believe COVID19 continues because we have a ~60% vaccination rate in the USA, which is far below the needed vaccination rate to slow down the spread of the disease.

A lot of these other diseases brought up have substantial 95%+ vaccination rates, or treatments that can hamper the spread.

No disease is equivalent to another. Smallpox and Measles had much higher spread R0 / replication rates. Others are bacterial. Cholera is water-borne and solved with other methodologies.