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Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by kabdib on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:03PM (#29554048)
$20K is at most 100 hours of consulting time in SV. Probably less [it's been quite a while since I was in that market].

Analogue was hoping for a screaming deal on this software. He was right to walk away.

Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by Alekhine on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:43PM (#29554592)
Minor correction, Endrift is a woman
Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by kabdib on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @04:07PM (#29557762)
I stand corrected. Apologies.
Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by kllrnohj on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:46PM (#29554634)
Analogue isn't an SV company, so why are you using SV rates?
Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by FemmeAndroid on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:00PM (#29554860)
They're a Seattle company hiring people with very niche skills. Even if you don't think SV rates apply exactly too Seattle, the scale of them does -- 100 hours vs months of work.
Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by kabdib on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @06:55PM (#29559877)
Specialist knowledge. Hard problem. Company is located in Seattle.

Someone capable of doing a good job on this can make FAR more doing something else. $20K is a joke.

Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by jonny_eh on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @10:41PM (#29561810)
And yet someone did it. So either someone took the lowball or they paid up in the end.
Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by msbarnett on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:16PM (#29555116)
Endrift lived in SV at the time, as stated in TFA - she would obviously base her rate expectations on her location, not on wherever Analogue happens to be legally incorporated.
Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by kllrnohj on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:18PM (#29555143)
Endrift being unhappy with $10k-20k due to their current situation & cost of living is entirely different from the person I responded to claiming that "Analogue was hoping for a screaming deal on this software"

Analogue wasn't looking for SV contractors, they were looking for contractors in any location (in this case, a remote contractor). That Endrift happened to be located in SV changes their specific appetite for the offer, but doesn't make the offer unreasonable or disrespectful, either.

Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by msbarnett on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:43PM (#29555505)
> Endrift being unhappy with $10k-20k due to their current situation & cost of living is entirely different from the person I responded to claiming that "Analogue was hoping for a screaming deal on this software"

> Analogue wasn't looking for SV contractors, they were looking for contractors in any location (in this case, a remote contractor). That Endrift happened to be located in SV changes their specific appetite for the offer, but doesn't make the offer unreasonable or disrespectful, either.

I wouldn't expect to get cycle-accurate FPGA emulation work (by one of a handful of experienced experts in simulating the original hardware!) done for ~$30 USD an hour from basically anywhere on the planet. Contracting out of Eastern Europe or South America you'd end up paying about that much for a mostly incompetent web dev -- for what Analogue wanted, there's no real way to describe it other than "hoping to hit a homerun on an absolutely insanely unreasonable offer".

This is deeply specialist knowledge that Analogue is looking for.

Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by CyberRabbi on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:38PM (#29554518)
100% it wasn’t even worth the effort of asking for more. I’ve tried that, it’s just humiliating. Their offer was openly disrespectful. If more engineers were brave enough to walk away from abusive employers like this it would be a better and more equitable industry.
Re:Analogue Pocket Hate Story by aj7 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @12:58PM (#29554824)
I’m amazed how long it dragged on.