Former Harvard chemistry chair to stand trial for allegedly hiding ties to China

Re:Former Harvard chemistry chair to stand trial for alleged... by BobbyJo on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @09:27AM (#29551839)

There are lots of places where your argument is nonsense, but I feel like the most important thing to address is this:

> However, the US has killed many times more people in other countries

That's just inaccurate. The founding of the current communist regime resulted in more deaths within China's borders than all of the US's military campaigns (and espionage) since WW2 combined. I've seen it said a lot that the "US kills more!" So I wonder if that's just a talking point the CCP is trying to disseminate to distract from their current genocide.

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Re:Former Harvard chemistry chair to stand trial for alleged... by ethbr0 on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @10:05AM (#29552292)

It's hard to exceed the Great Leap Forward's 15-30M+. Even the Soviet Union's Holodomor is calculated around 6M.

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Re:Former Harvard chemistry chair to stand trial for alleged... by tsimionescu on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @01:17PM (#29555133)

I meant the US has killed more people abroad than China has killed abroad. So, if I were a citizen of China, I have many reasons to fear the Chinese government; if I were a citizen of the USA, I would not have much reason to fear the US government.

But, if I am a citizen of, say, Lebanon, I have many more reasons to fear the USA than I have to fear China. I'm much more likely to be killed by the US government than the Chinese government.

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Re:Former Harvard chemistry chair to stand trial for alleged... by thereddaikon on Tuesday December 14, 2021 @02:06PM (#29555884)

Without context it is a pointless statistic. The US was involved on the just side of the two largest wars in modern history. That's where the overwhelming majority of its foreign killings comes from. And while regrettable, they were lawful and necessary. You can't call someone a murderer for defending themselves from attack.

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Re:Former Harvard chemistry chair to stand trial for alleged... by samhw on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:51AM (#29564697)

I don't see how something can be both regrettable and necessary? Also, as well as the two wars that the US was on the 'just' side of, it's also been on the quite-hard-to-call-just side of many others, where it was not exactly defending itself either.

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Re:Former Harvard chemistry chair to stand trial for alleged... by thereddaikon on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @08:14AM (#29565447)

Because war sucks but going to war is preferable to letting imperial japan and nazi germany rule the world.

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