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Re:What a progressive utopia does to outdoor dining by wolverine876 on Monday December 13, 2021 @06:22PM (#29546072)
> The permitting process is so focused on preventing the negative that there is no advocate of the positive.

How does it work?

Re:What a progressive utopia does to outdoor dining by PaulDavisThe1st on Monday December 13, 2021 @09:32PM (#29547498)
It works that way because we have encoded agreed upon negatives into law and/or regulations. By contrast, the positives are still highly subjective and not broadly agreed upon.

So the actual process is dominated by "Does the project avoid X?", "Does the project ensure that Y cannot happen?", "Will the project ever exceed limit Z?" rather than "Does the project bring <positive-good> to its location?", because people have not yet agreed upon a clear definition of <positive-good> things. In contrast, the stuff to avoid makes itself known, and the stuff we can mostly agree on becomes part of our civic codes.

Re:What a progressive utopia does to outdoor dining by cma on Monday December 13, 2021 @10:46PM (#29547986)
Related, the law usually compensates for government "takings" but doesn't work in reverse, except in a few places:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_capture