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Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by chrisseaton on Sunday December 12, 2021 @09:50PM (#29536025)
I think you've just proved yourself that making 100k is extremely achievable in the US (1/4) for someone who even just bothers to turn up full-time.
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Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by saalweachter on Sunday December 12, 2021 @10:31PM (#29536303)
Keep in mind the "underemployment rate" -- the people who want to be working more but can't find a job that will let them -- is something like 12%.

Being willing to show up full time is necessary but not sufficient.

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Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by PaulDavisThe1st on Sunday December 12, 2021 @11:22PM (#29536571)
When 3 out 4 people "fail" at something, I'm not sure that calling it "extremely achievable" is really a particularly suitable description.
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Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by shukantpal on Monday December 13, 2021 @12:07AM (#29536839)
Ahem, your statement assumes people even try - most do not. Especially given the "follow your passion" advice Americans are following nowadays.
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Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by PaulDavisThe1st on Monday December 13, 2021 @12:18AM (#29536890)
The GP was using a quote from the GGP:

> According to the 2020 census data linked below the percentage increases to around 24% for individuals who worked full time all year.

It said and implied nothing about people trying or not. GP attempted to cast this as "1/4 of people succeed, so it's easily achieveable"

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Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country by shukantpal on Monday December 13, 2021 @06:15PM (#29546012)
It said and implied nothing about failing either.

Also, if I look at the people around myself and see that 1 / 4 are able to do something, it would probably be easy. So it’s the GPs own self awareness combined with the stat.

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