Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country
by ryandrake on Sunday December 12, 2021 @10:10PM
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The phrase "Family Values" is pretty vague, too. I'm sure if you asked almost everyone who is in a family whether they felt they had family values they'd say yes. I'm not really sure what someone means when they say an area has "family values". I don't think it means lack of divorce.
In the 90s, I remember "family values" having been used by politicians as a polite euphemism for the very narrow "straight, Christian, atomic" view of what a family should be.
Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country
by AussieWog93 on Monday December 13, 2021 @12:02AM
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>I don't think it means lack of divorce.
I'd definitely view a lack of divorce as a pretty big part of it.
But as you said, it's entirely personal and subjective. :)
Re:Americans overestimate social mobility in their country
by candybar on Monday December 13, 2021 @10:58AM
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However you cut it, divorce rates are substantially higher among the working class. If you look at educational attainment:
% divorced among those married, by age 46:
Did not graduate from high school: 58.8
High school graduate, no college: 49.1
Some college or associate degree: 48.5
Bachelor's degree or higher: 29.8
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/pdf/marriage-and-d...
It's one of those terms that are loosely defined (at least in certain societies) and mean very different things to different people.
Is an electrician earning US$80k/year middle class because he's well compensated for his work, or working class because he's doing manual labour?