Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

Re:Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match by manquer on Saturday December 11, 2021 @02:59PM (#29523751)

While ML model building is bit more difficult , fuzzing a standard engine moves do only what you can understand is certainly possible without too much difficulty.

The point is cheating is bigger concern in online chess than other eSports

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Re:Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match by usehackernews on Saturday December 11, 2021 @06:53PM (#29525483)

Yes, it’s a concern. But that doesn’t mean unfair advantages and cheating doesn’t occur in other esports.

Anyway, I don’t think we’re disagreeing on chess cheating. For me, the small chance someone is cheating doesn’t ruin the esport for me - For you it does, which is a perfectly reasonable response to it.

Secondary thought in the engine idea you had - chess fraud detection, I imagine, goes well beyond just the engine and move likeliness. It will also human-like interaction (Can’t confirm this, but the PM in me has me consumed with thinking about solutions to this problem)

When people play a chess game online, they are frequently evaluating positions. This results in cursor/mouse behavior that’s sporadic. If a user is considering moving the queen, they’ll move their cursor over to it. A user relying on an engine for every move would interact with the board in a very precise manner.

A player with a perfect engine to mimic humans will still get caught as their interaction with the board would differ greatly because only one position is considered for each move.

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