Tesla Full Self Driving Beta Causes a Crash

Re:Tesla Full Self Driving Beta Causes a Crash by SV_BubbleTime on Friday December 10, 2021 @09:14PM (#29517780)

I should know this, but don’t… when the vehicle is in computer driving mode with your human hand on the wheel, does the wheel still turn?

I assume for mechanical and practical reasons it does, but I don’t know to what degree it will “fight you”. How much pressure is needed to override the system? If I’m holding it and refuse to let the wheel turn, I assume it gives up and computer mode turns off? But there has to be some degree of resistance it’ll overcome right?

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Re:Tesla Full Self Driving Beta Causes a Crash by camjohnson26 on Friday December 10, 2021 @09:27PM (#29517850)

I think it varies but this from today shows it aggressively fighting the driver: https://twitter.com/fly4dat/status/1469410498928156683?s=20

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Re:Tesla Full Self Driving Beta Causes a Crash by SV_BubbleTime on Saturday December 11, 2021 @12:09AM (#29518609)

Yea, that’s kind of what I thought it would be like. Hard to tell how much of that is fighting, and how much is “tactile wiggle alert” where it’s not steering that input but is wiggling.

They can wiggle alert safely if it’s full electronic steering and not connected to a tie rod. IDK if that is the case, typically sucks for feeling the road.

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Re:Tesla Full Self Driving Beta Causes a Crash by HolyLampshade on Friday December 10, 2021 @10:37PM (#29518184)

That’s correct. The wheel is still moving, and you are required to minimally tension it. Stronger tension will disengage the AP.

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