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Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by nickysielicki on Friday December 10, 2021 @02:11PM (#29514124)
> You can't give your source burglary tools, ask them to break into something particular and then claim you were just a reporter.

Drop the analogy, what did Assange actually do to help Manning?

I’d maintain that it’s not unreasonable for a journalist to ask a leaker for documents about a particular topic.

Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by joshuamorton on Friday December 10, 2021 @02:28PM (#29514355)
Presumably this will be addressed at the trial, and a jury will decide whether the materialness of the assistance was criminal.
Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by nickysielicki on Friday December 10, 2021 @02:32PM (#29514418)
Of course, but that doesn’t mean we can’t talk about it in the interim. My parent comment claims (through analogy) that Assange gave secret proprietary hacking tools to Manning. I don’t believe that’s remotely true.
Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by space_fountain on Friday December 10, 2021 @02:52PM (#29514697)
No, sorry I think the analogy was a bit too extreme meant only to show that under some circumstances arresting him would be fine. I think according to Wikipedia the specific claim is

> The charges stem from the allegation that Assange attempted and failed to crack a password hash so that Chelsea Manning could use a different username to download classified documents and avoid detection.

Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by at_a_remove on Friday December 10, 2021 @03:57PM (#29515363)
Again, the disparity is what interests me. Surely Manning is at as least guilty of "hacking" as Assange. And yet ... different treatment.
Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by joshuamorton on Friday December 10, 2021 @04:22PM (#29515595)
In what was is there different treatment? Manning stood trial, was imprisoned, and is now free. Assange has not.
Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by at_a_remove on Friday December 10, 2021 @04:51PM (#29515888)
It's gonna be super neat to find out. Are you of the opinion that Assange will be eventually set free?
Re:Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules by joshuamorton on Friday December 10, 2021 @05:19PM (#29516136)
I'm not an expert, but if following @popehat on twitter has taught me anything, it would lead me to conclude yes.

He's charged with 18 counts, each with a 10 year maximum sentence, except 1 with a 5 year sentence. Manning faced 22 charges, including one that carried a potential death penalty, so broadly speaking Assange is facing fewer and less serious charges. If we take Manning's sentencing as a reasonable upper bound, he'd face 35 years in prison, with potential for early release. He's 50 now, so there's a chance he'd die in prison, but I'd give him better than even odds. And that's assuming what I'd argue is a worse than could be expected sentencing.

But in general the likelyhood of him facing a life sentence (or what amounts to a life sentence, 50+years) is low.