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Re:A molten salt storage solution using sodium hydroxide by new_realist on Thursday December 09, 2021 @04:34PM (#29503254)
Does this hold true for spilled wind and solar? Does the efficiency matter at all if it would otherwise be wasted?
Re:A molten salt storage solution using sodium hydroxide by chris_va on Thursday December 09, 2021 @07:00PM (#29504834)
Curtailed renewables might make this economical in the short term, but also provides the same benefit for competitive storage technologies (e.g. LiFePO4 batteries). You'd have to compare the LCOE for each over the lifetime of the installation, and I don't think thermal would stack up well.
Re:A molten salt storage solution using sodium hydroxide by KennyBlanken on Thursday December 09, 2021 @08:53PM (#29505572)
Thoughts about the iron flow batteries from ESS? They're using an iron flow chemistry that doesn't require exotic stuff. Looks like they've been testing for a while at a bunch of sites, and brought their first 'real' non-test customer online this fall.

On paper to a layman, they look perfect for at least some applications. Very cheap and easy to build the "stacks", almost completely nontoxic/safe, and relatively easy to scale (I think they don't scale indefinitely with liquid tank size...that the plate surface area also matters?)

Re:A molten salt storage solution using sodium hydroxide by pjc50 on Friday December 10, 2021 @04:39AM (#29508130)
> scale indefinitely with liquid tank size...that the plate surface area also matters?)

For flow batteries, the plate area controls the charge/discharge rate and the tank size controls the capacity. In theory you can scale the capacity as far as you can build tanks; I don't know whether there are practical considerations of "self-discharge" or electrolyte degradation.

Re:A molten salt storage solution using sodium hydroxide by KennyBlanken on Friday December 10, 2021 @11:12PM (#29518350)
Not for ESS batteries.

Please do your homework before you speak.