New Zealand plans to make it illegal for kids to buy cigarettes

Re:New Zealand plans to make it illegal for kids to buy ciga... by scythe on Thursday December 09, 2021 @11:26AM (#29499341)

>The same arguments that people who refuse COVID vaccines should be cut off from the community (jobs, commerce, etc) applies to tobacco.

When was the last time an ER or ICU was closed to new patients because of lung cancer? The problem with COVID denialism isn't that they impose the usual sort of healthcare costs but that they produce correlated emergencies which strain the hospital beyond its usual operating capacity.

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Re:New Zealand plans to make it illegal for kids to buy ciga... by gadflyinyoureye on Thursday December 09, 2021 @11:40AM (#29499556)

Once the ERs slow down can people who didn’t get the shot have jobs or leave their homes? Many on the Left say no.

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Re:New Zealand plans to make it illegal for kids to buy ciga... by scythe on Thursday December 09, 2021 @03:24PM (#29502466)

I expect that vaccine mandates for employment (a la Biden) will go away eventually, yes. But that won't happen "once the ERs slow down"; rather, it happens when we are confident they won't "speed up" again. One operationalization: I would figure that when we are at 95% vaccinated or so, and when it is no longer a major news item, the mandate will be repealed.

>or leave their homes?

I do support continuing the vaccine mandate for as long as people continue to say ridiculous things like this. Government policy has rarely been so funny.

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